THZ / LWZ Tecalor Stiebel Eltron Heizung

[maximalz]

Das ist ganz nett, mit der Lüfterstufenanwahl, allerdings trifft das nicht den Kern der Frage. Ich glaube, es ging um diese Einstellung, die nur eine gewisse Zeit hält.

Ich stelle z.B. auch immer  Lüfterstufen-> Ausserplanmäßig 0 / 60 min. ein, wenn ich Rasen mähe, damit ich mir nicht die Abgase reinziehe.

Gibt es die Einstellung auch irgendwo?

[micomat]

Ah, verstehe
Nein diese Funktion wurde bislang nicht implementiert.

@immi, this is the "unscheduled ventilation" feature. do you see any chance to implement? or to implement a feature to disable ventilation for X (user defineable) hours?

markus

[immi]

yes Markus,
I could try to search for this useless parameter, and implement it

nevertheless, I am sad that nobody is really using the powerfull features of FHEM like "at"
I cite myself 3 weeks ago

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define bbqbegin at 18:00:00 set p07FanStageDay 0
define bbqend at 20:00:00 set p07FanStageDay 1


how easy it is?
A button can be implemented also; "at" is so flexible

switch-off now and after 30 min switch-on

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set p07FanStageDay 0
define dreizigminuten  at +00:30:00 set p07FanStageDay 1



immi

[micomat]

good idea as i'm not a programmer i won't ever think about the "at" feature.
i will try to configure a button like this.

EDIT
i gave up =( i only can create a button for switching it off with an off;;sleep 120;;on command chain. for more, my perl is too poor.

thanks
markus

[THZ_Haus]

Ich stelle z.B. auch immer  Lüfterstufen-> Ausserplanmäßig 0 / 60 min. ein, wenn ich Rasen mähe, damit ich mir nicht die Abgase reinziehe...

-> Jupp genau diese Funktion suche ich, gerade jetzt wo die ersten Osterfeuer angezündet werden, ist diese Funktion wirklich Gold wert.
Nun muß ich immer noch bis unten in den Keller flitzen und die Lüftung abschalten!

-> Zudem wäre es auch Klasse, die Lüftung z.b. in den Pollenflugzeiten zu deaktivieren z.B. zwischen 1.00 bis 3.00 Uhr, gerade für Allergiker wünschenswert.

MFG Jens

[THZ_Haus]

Das ist ganz nett, mit der Lüfterstufenanwahl, allerdings trifft das nicht den Kern der Frage. Ich glaube, es ging um diese Einstellung, die nur eine gewisse Zeit hält.

Ich stelle z.B. auch immer  Lüfterstufen-> Ausserplanmäßig 0 / 60 min. ein, wenn ich Rasen mähe, damit ich mir nicht die Abgase reinziehe.

Gibt es die Einstellung auch irgendwo?

Jupp genau diese Funktion meine ich, gerade jetzt wo die Osterfeuer vor der Tür stehen!

[THZ_Haus]

Hallo Jens,
freut mich das die Konfiguration geklappt hat.
Schau mal in fhemwiki.de, da findest Du seit heute in der Beispielconfig einen Fan-Selektor

Gruß
Markus

Super sache, nur bekomme ich das Ventilator zeichen nicht angezeigt?

[micomat]

taeglich zu einer bestimmten uhrzeit deaktivieren geht via "at", das kann sogar ich

zeig mir mal deine config mit den luefterstufen.

[immi]

good idea as i'm not a programmer i won't ever think about the "at" feature.
i will try to configure a button like this.
EDIT
i gave up =( i only can create a button for switching it off with an off;;sleep 120;;on command chain. for more, my perl is too poor.

Markus, Do not give up, post what you have done (exact code); someone will help you understand: collective intelligence

[willybauss]

...
A button can be implemented also; "at" is so flexible
switch-off now and after 30 min switch-on

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set p07FanStageDay 0
define dreizigminuten  at +00:30:00 set p07FanStageDay 1

...

Hi immi

Drawback of this solution is, that it relies on FanStageDay to be active for the whole time frame between pressing the button AND end of 'dreizigminuten'. Having a second button for night times doesn't help.
Example:
Assuming that night mode gets active at 22:00 (programmed inside THZ) and I press the button at 21:59 ==> FanStage 0 will be active for just one minute, until the THZ switches to FanStageNight. To work around this potential issue I always have to have all my programmed switches between day and night mode in mind. Since they are different from day to day that's not so easy ...

The requested "unscheduled ventilation" feature doesn't care about any FanStageDay or FanStageNight setting and really keeps the FanStage 0 until defined time is over. Therefore I don't think this parameter is useless.

Willy

[immi]

Hi Willy
I am not a programmer; therefore I always start simple, when I write code.
Clearly if you want to make a nice button, you start as I suggested and then increase the complexity.
e.g.
1) you put in a variable p07FanStageDay and p07FanStageNight; which could be different
2) you set them to 0: set p07FanStageDay 0 // set p07FanStageNight 0
3) you give an "at" command setting back the old stage values to the tecalor.


p.s. I am going in a completely other direction. I am going away from all automatic "feature" of tecalor. I want to stop using party time, night mode, holyday mode. FHEM has to take care of it, looking in my calendar or wheater forecast and set THZ accordingly.

immi

[micomat]

p.s. I am going in a completely other direction. I am going away from all automatic "feature" of tecalor. I want to stop using party time, night mode, holyday mode. FHEM has to take care of it, looking in my calendar or wheater forecast and set THZ accordingly.

sounds intresting

[willybauss]

Hi Willy
I am not a programmer; therefore I always start simple, when I write code.
Clearly if you want to make a nice button, you start as I suggested and then increase the complexity.
e.g.
1) you put in a variable p07FanStageDay and p07FanStageNight; which could be different
2) you set them to 0: set p07FanStageDay 0 // set p07FanStageNight 0
3) you give an "at" command setting back the old stage values to the tecalor.

Man kann sich auch die Hose mit der Kneifzange anziehen.

p.s. I am going in a completely other direction. I am going away from all automatic "feature" of tecalor. I want to stop using party time, night mode, holyday mode. FHEM has to take care of it, looking in my calendar or wheater forecast and set THZ accordingly.

immi

I'm pretty sure you're the only one here going so consequently into this direction. But it's your module, not the users' one.

[micomat]

willy, saying phrases in german is not a fair way to communicate...

i'm very intrested in immi's target to have more control on fhem in order to save energy
so when i think about my DHW is heated up every morning and a few hours later there is perfect sunshine to do this inseat, i would love to have a configuration which tells the heating not to heat up the water and wait for the sunshine

markus

[immi]

Man kann sich auch die Hose mit der Kneifzange anziehen.

Hi Willy
if with the sentence you are refering to complexity; trust me, writing the 3 line of code (which I suggested) is much, much more easy than reverse engineer the undocumented unstructured comunication protocol from tecalor.

moreover 00_THZ is a opensource module is not mine; I am only the actual manteiner.

immi