SetExtensions on-till-overnight on-for-timer

[mgmino]

set bedlamp on-for-timer 24000

gives the error message:

Wrong timespec 24000: either HH:MM:SS or {perlcode}

The documentation says "on-for-timer <seconds>" the following executes:

set bedlamp on-for-timer 07:00


set bedlamp on-till-overnight 01:35

gives the error message:

Unknown argument on-till-overnight ...

Looking at the SetExtensions,pm module, it appears that this function was not implemented although the documentation suggests otherwise. I am willing to be part of the solution if appropriate and I am interpreting these items properly.

[Beta-User]

Could you please show a "list" of the bedlamp device?

Some Modules do not implement these commands via SetExtensions...

[mgmino]

The on-till function works as documented and the on-for-timer works but not as documented. I conclude that since some of the SetExtensions work, they all would. That said, he is the results of list bedlamp

Internals:
   BRIGHT     210
   DEF        lm12 C 1
   FUUID      5ee2dd52-f33f-f43b-4ad2-66a3c82cd2538c80
   HOUSE      C
   IODev      x10gw
   LASTInputDev x10gw
   MODEL      lm12
   MSGCNT     9
   NAME       bedlamp
   NR         18
   ONOFF      0
   STATE      off
   TYPE       X10
   UNIT       1
   eventCount 473
   x10gw_MSGCNT 9
   x10gw_TIME 2023-03-01 21:30:28
   READINGS:
     2022-12-23 01:06:44   IODev           x10gw
     2023-03-07 04:23:22   dimmer          100
     2023-03-07 04:23:22   onoff           0
     2023-03-07 04:23:22   state           off
   internals:
     interfaces dimmer
Attributes:
   IODev      x10gw
   alexaName  Bed Lamp
   devStateIcon on:lamp-on off:lamp-off
   genericDeviceType light
   group      Lights,
   icon       lamp
   room       Master Bedroom

[betateilchen]

The problem is not SetExtension, but X10 itself.
Please be aware of the special notes in the module's documentation.

https://commandref.fhem.de/#X10

on-for-timer requires a relative time in the "at" format (HH:MM:SS, HH:MM) or { <perl code> }, where the perl code returns a time specification).

Furthermore, on-till-overnight is not supported by X10.

[mgmino]

betateilchen: You have answered both questions. It appears that the X-10 module implements those extensions directly rather than use the SetExtensions module which I incorrectly assumed. It is these inconsistencies that drive a newbie nuts. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction (to the native device documentation). Another lesson learned.

[betateilchen]

It appears that the X-10 module implements those extensions directly rather than use the SetExtensions module which I incorrectly assumed.

There is a very simple reason for this behavior: SetExtension.pm did not yet exist when X10.pm was created.