LG WebOS überwachen mit hping3 und PRESENCE

[grappa24]

Bei mir dasselbe: Seit dem WebOS Update vor einiger Zeit liefert das LGTV_WebOS keine verwertbaren Daten mehr.

tcpdump zeigt, dass eine Verbindung zum Fernseher aufgebaut wird (auf Port 3000) und das Modul auch eine Anfrage sendet. Die Antwort des Fernsehers ist dann aber wohl nicht die richtige.

Repairing oder reconnect gehen nicht - so weit kommt es gar nicht.

Gerade kam ein neues WebOS Update (auf 04.50.51) und in mir keimte schon die Hoffnung auf, dass da jemand bei LG gemerkt hat, was sie verfummelt haben. Aber nein: Geht weiterhin nicht.

Als Notmaßnahme, um wenigstens zu erkennen, ob der Fernseher überhaupt an ist, habe ich ein PRESENCE device angelegt. Das war aber auch ein bisschen knifflig, weil der Fernseher bei mir fast alle Ports offen hat, auch wenn er aus ist. (Das kann man vermutlich auch irgendwo abstellen, aber dann kann ich ihn nicht mehr mit Alexa einschalten...). Aber Port 7000 geht auf und zu.

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define LGTVp PRESENCE function {qx(sudo hping3 -c 1 -p 7000 -S 192.168.xx.yy) =~ /flags=SA/?"1":"0"}
Nicht besonders elegant, aber so kann ich wenigstens das Licht ausschalten, das sich sonst genau im Fernseher spiegelt.

Turo

[grappa24]

Super Idee! Aber hilf mir mal, meiner wird als present angezeigt, obwohl er "aus" (=standby) ist. Muss der komplett aus sein? Oder kann das bei mir ein anderer port sein? Hab allerdings auch noch nicht die allerletzte Software drauf ...

Dass Dein Fernseher sich da anders verhält, kann ich mir gut vorstellen. Mach doch mal ein "nmap" (muss man gegebenenfalls nachinstallieren) jeweils in ein- und ausgeschaltetem Zustand.

(Aber eigentlich hat das jetzt nur noch am Rande mit dem 82_LGTV_WebOS Modul zu tun und wir sollten besser einen neuen Thread aufmachen, wenn es noch mehr zu diskutieren gibt...)

Turo

[grappa24]

Bei mir geht anscheinend der Port 9080 auf und zu, aber ein hping3 auf 9080 liefert immer ein Paket zurück, egal ob der LG an oder aus ist.

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Starting Nmap 7.70 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2023-10-24 09:08 CEST
Nmap scan report for LGwebOSTV.fritz.box (192.168.178.123)
Host is up (0.0019s latency).
Not shown: 996 closed ports
PORT      STATE SERVICE
3000/tcp  open  ppp
3001/tcp  open  nessus
7000/tcp  open  afs3-fileserver
49152/tcp open  unknown

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 0.33 seconds
pi@raspberrypi:~ $ nmap 192.168.178.123
Starting Nmap 7.70 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2023-10-24 09:10 CEST
Nmap scan report for LGwebOSTV.fritz.box (192.168.178.123)
Host is up (0.0025s latency).
Not shown: 995 closed ports
PORT      STATE SERVICE
3000/tcp  open  ppp
3001/tcp  open  nessus
7000/tcp  open  afs3-fileserver
9080/tcp  open  glrpc
49152/tcp open  unknown


[turo]

Bei mir geht anscheinend der Port 9080 auf und zu, aber ein hping3 auf 9080 liefert immer ein Paket zurück, egal ob der LG an oder aus ist.

Das müsste dann aber ein Reset sein ("flags=RA") und kein Syn ("flags=SA") - daher auch das pattern matching bei mir, um das zu unterscheiden.

[grappa24]

Mit RA geht's leider nicht. Wie bekomme ich das raus?

[turo]

Mit RA geht's leider nicht. Wie bekomme ich das raus?

Was sagt denn das hping3 in beiden Fällen so? Sieht man da keinen Unterschied?

[grappa24]

9080 ist wohl nicht immer offen, wenn mein LG an ist. Ich muss erstmal rausfinden was damit los ist.

Wenn 9080 offen ist, liefert hping3 das SA flag
Wenn 9080 geschl ist, liefert hping3 das RA flag

Info: Der LG läuft bei mir über WLAN.

Ich verwende dieses "Stets bereit ohne Hintergrundbild" - ist ein G2 mit SW 03.33.85

[grappa24]

vorher noch ne andere Frage:

hping3 erzeugt ja log-Einträge im FHEM Logfile, lässt sich das irgendwie unterbinden? Mir läuft sonst das Log voll ...

[turo]

vorher noch ne andere Frage:

hping3 erzeugt ja log-Einträge im FHEM Logfile, lässt sich das irgendwie unterbinden? Mir läuft sonst das Log voll ...

Stimmt - das ist nicht so gut, besser:

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define LGTVp PRESENCE function {qx(sudo hping3 -c 1 -p 7000 -S 192.168.178.123 2>/dev/null) =~ /flags=SA/?"1":"0"}

[turo]

9080 ist wohl nicht immer offen, wenn mein LG an ist. Ich muss erstmal rausfinden was damit los ist.

Dann habe ich wohl einfach Glück: Bei mir folgt der Port 7000 dem Status.

Wenn 9080 offen ist, liefert hping3 das SA flag
Wenn 9080 geschl ist, liefert hping3 das RA flag

Das ist wie erwartet: Ein geschlossener Port liefert RST und ACK, ein offenener SYN und ACK.

Also wenn Du bei Dir keinen Port findest, der sich zusammen mit dem Einschalten öffnet, dann wird das bei Dir leider nicht klappen.

Zwei Alternativen kommen mir noch in den Sinn:
- Der Fernseher ist recht geschwätzig im Netz, wenn er eingeschaltet ist und preist sich per multicast an
- Bluetooth kann er ja auch

Aus beidem lässt sich vielleicht mit etwas Grübeln eine Einschalterkennung zimmern...

[grappa24]

Hab mal mit Bluetooth experimentiert bzw. PRESENCE mit local-bluetooth definiert.

Merkwürdigerweise ist der state dann "absent", wenn der LG G2 an ist und "present", wenn er aus ist.

Ich mein, damit kann ich arbeiten, aber muss man das verstehen?

[turo]

Kreative Lösung. Wenn es funktioniert, würde ich nicht lange drüber nachdenken.

Aber irgendwo habe ich gelesen, dass man den Fernseher über Bluetooth einschalten kann. Das würde erklären, dass er das Bluetooth aktiviert, wenn er aus ist.

Turo

[Invers]

Erkennung mit Bluetooth würde mich auch interessieren. Kannst du mal die Definition posten?

Hab mal mit Bluetooth experimentiert bzw. PRESENCE mit local-bluetooth definiert.

Merkwürdigerweise ist der state dann "absent", wenn der LG G2 an ist und "present", wenn er aus ist.

Ich mein, damit kann ich arbeiten, aber muss man das verstehen?

[grappa24]

Erkennung mit Bluetooth würde mich auch interessieren. Kannst du mal die Definition posten?

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define LGTVp PRESENCE local-bluetooth  B8:xx:5F:xx:CB:75

[grappa24]

Thema BT-Erkennung:

Wenn der LG TV an ist, liefert PRESENCE konstant das Ergebnis "absent"; ab und zu schleicht sich mal für ca. 30s ein "present" ein.

Wenn er aber aus ist, gehts wild durcheinander, so dass man m.E. auch nicht wirklich auf den Zustand "aus" schließen kann.

Ich häng mal ein Log an, würde mich über ähnliche Experimente von euch freuen.

Bis ca 00:00 Uhr war er an, dann aus; ab da gehts im Log "wild" durcheinander.

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