RootFS nach 3-4 Wochen RO statt RW

Wernieman · 21 September 2016, 19:43:03

Sieht gut aus (Übrigens hat Deine Platte 33° ;o) )
Also ... smartd ist zwar in der Zuverlässigkeit nicht 100% Perfekt, ich würde aber von en Werten eher ausgehen, das es O.K. ist. Was mir noch einfällt ....

- Traffik auf der Platte erzeugt? (Große Daten auf die Platte kopieren, am besten mit einem 2. System)
- Kabelsitz geprüft?

Momentan würde ich aber von einem Problem im i/o Bereich des Cubi suchen

( nicht auf Sata Seite, da:

Zitat199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0

Interessant, Deine Platte ist nur 2 mal Hochgefahren, aber über 4000 mal start/stop bei 1800 Power an??

Zitat3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 170 170 033 Pre-fail Always - 2
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0012 097 097 000 Old_age Always - 4780
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 1885

Ansonsten sind die Werte bei über 20000 Stunden Betriebzeit normal und kein Wert (auch kin oben genannter) ist kritisch

Zitat9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 054 054 000 Old_age Always - 20334

P.S. 20334h ~ 2,3 Jahre

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_ FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 062 Pre-fail Always - 0
2 Throughput_Performance 0x0005 100 100 040 Pre-fail Offline - 0
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 170 170 033 Pre-fail Always - 2
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0012 097 097 000 Old_age Always - 4780
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 094 094 005 Pre-fail Always - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 067 Pre-fail Always - 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0005 100 100 040 Pre-fail Offline - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 054 054 000 Old_age Always - 20334
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 060 Pre-fail Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 1885
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate 0x000a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 94
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0012 018 018 000 Old_age Always - 826541
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0002 166 166 000 Old_age Always - 33 (Min/Max 10/50)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 086 086 000 Old_age Always - 1066
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0022 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0008 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
223 Load_Retry_Count 0x000a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0

AxelSchweiss · 21 September 2016, 21:35:16

Zitat von: Wernieman am 21 September 2016, 19:43:03
Ansonsten sind die Werte bei über 20000 Stunden Betriebzeit normal und kein Wert (auch kin oben genannter) ist kritischP.S. 20334h ~ 2,3 Jahre

Ähhh doch ... der hier

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193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0012 018 018 000 Old_age Always - 826541

Lies dir mal den ersten Thread in dem Link hier durch : http://www.linuxforen.de/forums/showthread.php?267786-Der-gr%FCne-Festplattentod-Load-Cycle-Count-Liste-anf%E4lliger-Festplatten

Da wird auch Hitachi erwähnt.

Bartimaus · 21 September 2016, 21:44:01

Hallo Jungs,

dank für die Analysen. Das mit HDPARM werde ich mal einstellen. Ansonsten habe ich meinen selbstgebauten Automounter im Verdacht. Dieser hat zu überlaufenden Logs geführt. Hab den jetzt durch einen MountOnRequest ersetzt

Dennoch werde ich die Platte weiter beobachten. Durch die die gewonnenen Erkenntnisse werde ich vielleicht auch nochmal die ausgediente SSD überprüfen..

Wernieman · 22 September 2016, 12:24:41

Mit dem Load_Cycle_Count hast Du Prinzipiell recht, aber in bezug auf die anderen Werte ist die Platte eben noch nicht defekt. Nur der Verschleiß ist höher ....

AxelSchweiss · 22 September 2016, 13:02:25

Ja ... ich sach ja nur Load_Cycle.
Aber das Problem mit dem Load_Cycle haben so einige Platten.
Für WD Platten gibts dafür sogar ein eigenes Tool.
Defekt by Design eben.
Bei Tintenstrahldruckern hat man ja auch eine "Nutzungsobergrenze" eingeführt.
Irgendwie muss man ja Geld verdienen ... wen schon nicht mit Qualität dann mit anderen Mitteln.

Wernieman · 22 September 2016, 13:28:56

Im Gegensatz zu Druckern möchte ich Dir bei Festplatten da wiedersprechen ...

Wenn die Platte eben in den speziellen Modus geht, parkt sie die Köpfe. Bei NB-Platten ist es auch sinnvoll, da in der zeit sie Erschüttungsresistenter sind. Das eine Mechanik irgendwo auf eine Maximale Grenze entwickelt ist, ist insovern verständlich, da auf unendlich optimieren einfach nicht geht.

Das für eine Normalle Platte der Hersteller Werte genommen hat, die bei 24/7 Nutzung eventuell zu niedrig sind .....

Bartimaus · 23 September 2016, 16:34:32

Hallo Jungs,

könnt Ihr bitte hier mal nen Blick drauf werfen ?

Die SSD hat es glaube ich hinter sich, oder ? (Obwohl ich gerade von einem Laptop schreibe, wo ich die eingebaut, und Knoppix drauf installiert habe. Im Banana hat die nur noch Probleme gemacht...)

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knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ sudo smartctl -t long /dev/sda
smartctl 6.4 2015-06-04 r4109 [x86_64-linux-4.2.6-64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-15, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF OFFLINE IMMEDIATE AND SELF-TEST SECTION ===
Sending command: "Execute SMART Extended self-test routine immediately in off-line mode".
Drive command "Execute SMART Extended self-test routine immediately in off-line mode" successful.
Testing has begun.
Please wait 4 minutes for test to complete.
Test will complete after Fri Sep 23 16:17:02 2016

Use smartctl -X to abort test.
knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ sudo smartctl -a  /dev/sda     
smartctl 6.4 2015-06-04 r4109 [x86_64-linux-4.2.6-64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-15, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Crucial/Micron RealSSD m4/C400
Device Model:     M4-CT064M4SSD2
Serial Number:    ohne
LU WWN Device Id: 5 00a075 103169892
Firmware Version: 000F
User Capacity:    64.023.257.088 bytes [64,0 GB]
Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate:    Solid State Device
Form Factor:      2.5 inches
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   ACS-2, ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 6
SATA Version is:  SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:    Fri Sep 23 16:28:26 2016 CEST

==> WARNING: This drive may hang after 5184 hours of power-on time:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Crucial-m4-Firmware-BSOD,14544.html
See the following web pages for firmware updates:
http://www.crucial.com/support/firmware.aspx
http://www.micron.com/products/solid-state-storage/client-ssd#software

SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x80) Offline data collection activity
                                        was never started.
                                        Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status:      ( 115) The previous self-test completed having
                                        the read element of the test failed.
Total time to complete Offline 
data collection:                (  295) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:                    (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                                        Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
                                        Suspend Offline collection upon new
                                        command.
                                        Offline surface scan supported.
                                        Self-test supported.
                                        Conveyance Self-test supported.
                                        Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
                                        power-saving mode.
                                        Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01) Error logging supported.
                                        General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine 
recommended polling time:        (   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:        (   4) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time:        (   3) minutes.
SCT capabilities:              (0x003d) SCT Status supported.
                                        SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
                                        SCT Feature Control supported.
                                        SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x002f   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Always       -       566
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   095   095   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       47104 (0 7)
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       13980
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       1546
170 Grown_Failing_Block_Ct  0x0033   095   095   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       247
171 Program_Fail_Count      0x0032   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       8959
172 Erase_Fail_Count        0x0032   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       0
173 Wear_Leveling_Count     0x0033   089   089   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       332
174 Unexpect_Power_Loss_Ct  0x0032   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       203
181 Non4k_Aligned_Access    0x0022   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       1482 401 1081
183 SATA_Iface_Downshift    0x0032   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       0
184 End-to-End_Error        0x0033   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       698
188 Command_Timeout         0x0032   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       0
189 Factory_Bad_Block_Ct    0x000e   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       48
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x003a   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       0
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       247
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   100   100   001    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       0
202 Perc_Rated_Life_Used    0x0018   089   089   001    Old_age   Offline      -       11
206 Write_Error_Rate        0x000e   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       8959

SMART Error Log Version: 1
ATA Error Count: 0
        CR = Command Register [HEX]
        FR = Features Register [HEX]
        SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
        SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
        CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
        CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
        DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
        DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
        ER = Error register [HEX]
        ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 0 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 13974 hours (582 days + 6 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 08 b8 9c 8d e0  Error: UNC 8 sectors at LBA = 0x008d9cb8 = 9280696

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  c8 00 08 b8 9c 8d e0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  READ DMA
  27 00 00 00 00 00 e0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT [OBS-ACS-3]
  ec 00 00 00 00 00 a0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  IDENTIFY DEVICE
  ef 03 42 00 00 00 a0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  SET FEATURES [Set transfer mode]
  27 00 00 00 00 00 e0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT [OBS-ACS-3]

Error -1 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 13974 hours (582 days + 6 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 08 b8 9c 8d e0  Error: UNC 8 sectors at LBA = 0x008d9cb8 = 9280696

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  c8 00 08 b8 9c 8d e0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  READ DMA
  27 00 00 00 00 00 e0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT [OBS-ACS-3]
  ec 00 00 00 00 00 a0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  IDENTIFY DEVICE
  ef 03 42 00 00 00 a0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  SET FEATURES [Set transfer mode]
  27 00 00 00 00 00 e0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT [OBS-ACS-3]

Error -2 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 13974 hours (582 days + 6 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 08 b8 9c 8d e0  Error: UNC 8 sectors at LBA = 0x008d9cb8 = 9280696

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  c8 00 08 b8 9c 8d e0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  READ DMA
  27 00 00 00 00 00 e0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT [OBS-ACS-3]
  ec 00 00 00 00 00 a0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  IDENTIFY DEVICE
  ef 03 42 00 00 00 a0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  SET FEATURES [Set transfer mode]
  27 00 00 00 00 00 e0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT [OBS-ACS-3]

Error -3 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 13974 hours (582 days + 6 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 08 b8 9c 8d e0  Error: UNC 8 sectors at LBA = 0x008d9cb8 = 9280696

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  c8 00 08 b8 9c 8d e0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  READ DMA
  27 00 00 00 00 00 e0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT [OBS-ACS-3]
  ec 00 00 00 00 00 a0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  IDENTIFY DEVICE
  ef 03 42 00 00 00 a0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  SET FEATURES [Set transfer mode]
  27 00 00 00 00 00 e0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT [OBS-ACS-3]

Error -4 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 13974 hours (582 days + 6 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 08 b8 9c 8d e0  Error: UNC 8 sectors at LBA = 0x008d9cb8 = 9280696

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  c8 00 08 b8 9c 8d e0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  READ DMA
  c8 00 80 30 70 8c e0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  READ DMA
  c8 00 18 70 6e 84 e0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  READ DMA
  c8 00 20 a0 03 8a e0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  READ DMA
  35 00 88 00 84 bc e0 00  35d+11:23:19.744  WRITE DMA EXT

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       30%     13979         92273608

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
 SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

Wernieman · 23 September 2016, 20:33:25

Mach mal ein smartctrl Test ...

Wobei die read/write-error werte mich stutzig machen ...

Bartimaus · 26 September 2016, 12:20:51

Moin,

lt. smartctl hat meine Platte bereits 84% ihrer Cycles verbraucht. Also nochmal 2% innerhalb der letzten Tage...

Habe den APM-Wert der Platte anhand dieses Links http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Notebook-Festplatten-Bug
nun von 128 auf 254 eingestellt. Werde weiter beobachten.